Articles by Scott Keith — Page 8
Don’t forget MJF.
Two questions this time:
the three cards. If the plan was for Steamboat to win regardless, he probably gets more of a rub from Hercules than Bret in 86, so that's another potential reason.
Shawn v Mankind. Rock v HHH Iron Man had a pretty clever DQ finish as well.
Any shot of reviewing RAW or SD now that the Game has changed?
There has been renewed focus on US and IC titles, solid weekly championship matches, less scripted promos, and a noticed improvement in both shows.
Last night’s RAW was one of the first times in forever where it didn’t feel like the 3 hours dragged and it didn’t put me to sleep.
Interested in hearing your thoughts on the current product as it’s been much better as of late.
And it just seems that WCW have already given up. On Raw you had the Zamboni, concrete corvette and Austin hunting McMahon all pretty much on back to back Raws. Then in WCW at the same time they had Hogan ‘running for President’ and advertised PPV matches not happening during one of the worst PPV’s I’ve ever seen in World War 3. Plus Goldberg not even booked on the PPV as World Champ.
I know you can say that McMahon v Austin took over but it was white hot. Plus at least it revolved around the World title.
I know ‘because WCW’ but man they’ve just gave up. We’re they that much in the toilet in the ratings by then?
I was talking to an old-school wrestling fan, and he suggested to me that not only was Flair an old contact of Meltzer, giving him info (a lot of fans have suspected as much given how biased Meltz was towards him, and how much he hated Dusty by contrast), but
Chris Benoit, Eddie Guerrero and a few others were as well. He says that this was considered an open secret back in the '90s, but this was the first I was hearing about it. I wasn't into the online fandom back then so I dunno- what do you think? Was it “open
knowledge” that these guys were calling Meltzer with info?
One thing pro wrestling wise that has been on my mine for that last little bit, that I haven’t seen any chat about is…….
Vince McMahon retiring on his own terms and not doing the time honoured tradition of putting someone else over??
The Mr McMahon charter buried so much talent over time, to this day had tons of heat because of the talent he went over. Yet he was able to go out on a Smackdown and just say hi to the crowd? His daughter then came out not to long later and thanked him?
Talk about hypocrisy!!!!!
This cheap and lazy company better not ever talk about the greatest Bret Hart not doing the time honoured tradition. When the one guy that was solely responsible for the creative and had more heat than any heel ever just vanished and got a good buy from his boss daughter.
You’re not wrong, Bacon.
Off the top of your head. Anymoves that have great names but aren’t really that impressive. The one that comes to me is the electric chair, badass name. Move is kind of week.
Conversely- cross faced chicken wing looks absolutely painful with not the greatest of names.
Why is it that both the WWE and AEW can't grasp what makes tournaments a great booking tool? With the exception of the CWC(which was AWESOME!), i can't think of a tournament since that feels like the stakes are there, its a fight to the top etc etc.
The TBS tourney seemed to go on forever. The mystery/rushed brackets of the Owen Hart, All Atlantic & now Trios titles have really scratching my head on how TK can do so well with Hangman & Page storyline, yet with those like he forgot he had to come up with a tournament and just started making shit up.
I honestly don't know if WWE does tournaments anymore, as its mostly multi-mans advancing to gimmick multi-mans .
Tournaments, especially with how big the rosters are, are such an easy way to explain why people are on tv and certain matches happen. And you can make this shit last for weeks, months even, and keep the energy going. Book the winner, work backwards, why is something so simple shown to be either half-assed or convoluted, or both!?!
Old Man yells at Clouds memes welcomed on the blog ty.
Survivor Series 91: Opening SS match, sole survivor but due to lamest of lame endings. Does interfere in main event and costs Hogan title however.
RR92: Nuff said
WM8: Loses title, and its Not in the main event against Hogan. (even though Savage is the man, no disrespect)
Summerslam 92: Not booked to wrestle, but interferes in the world title match.
Wins title back in Sept. on Primetime wrestling
Loses title to Bret on House show in 92 (also nuff said on this story)
SS92: In tag-team match that ends in DQ (and i feel they didn't capitalize on Ramone afterwards with this match, but that's another day)
RR93: Gets his longevity record broken already by Bob Backlund of all people
Raw after Rumble: loses to Perfect to leave company.
Now with that said, what was Flairs expectation coming in? And did he have a pretty happy attitude/company man throughout his run? Looking back I just see some events where a pro like him would want to perform (Wembley stadium, a more standout match at his first survivor series/ppv) and for the ppv payout. Was he on the same page as the company with going from Hogan to Savage for WM 8? Was a Pipe/Flair PPV match ever strongly considered?
I think it came too late for Flair and he was mostly using Vince to spite Jim Herd. If it had happened in 88 like originally thought, he’d have the Horsemen and could feud with prime Savage and Hogan. By 91 it was more like “Well we can’t say no to Flair” but really there was no great long term strategy for him.
Pretty sure we covered it in the Observer Flashback at the time but it’s been a minute so I forget the details. But that sounds right to me as well.
Pretty simple bit of speculation here:
How much money did Vince Sr. leave on the table by not turning Graham face and keeping the belt on him?